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Friday, February 7th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 7 2014, 12:42 AM (14,376 Views)
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Feb 9 2014, 11:03 AM
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Feb 7 2014, 11:40 PM
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OMG! I was totally thinking the same thing. I really like him with Lucas. He looks and sounds relaxed. I like him with everyone, except Jordan (and hell to the no with him and Kate). I've been watching him and Sami and I think after what EJ did to Sami, she deserves a little bit of protective Rafe. I am a little bit Safe these days.
I do not know why but your post about Jordan remind old posts in past of other posters said about rafe
I love your banner. Although, like Will, I think Lucas and Sami are really good friends and they should stay that way. I like them friends. I don't want them hurting each other. I want them teaming up for their children's benefit and acting as a united front when it comes to their kids. I buy that they care about each other. They should just stay that way.
Lucas and sami staying friends does not mean they will not hurt each other.the first time Sami hurt lucas they were friends.and not really unit now it pretty much Sami call all the shots and whoever she in relationship with.and right now lucas hidden stuff happened to will and affect him do lucas can be part of unit if does not know what happen.I do not really listen to anything will saying now ever since he was too busy pimping rafe and ej and praise them every time while compare lucas to Stefano in very bad form.at least guy Wilson of will does not seem like he only tolerate lucas because his family and cable to be happy for lucas.when will stop praise ej I might listen to what he saying but as long will praising ej he sound like idiot
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I do not know why but your post about Jordan remind old posts in past of other posters said about rafe
I love your banner. Although, like Will, I think Lucas and Sami are really good friends and they should stay that way. I like them friends. I don't want them hurting each other. I want them teaming up for their children's benefit and acting as a united front when it comes to their kids. I buy that they care about each other. They should just stay that way.
Lucas and sami staying friends does not mean they will not hurt each other.the first time Sami hurt lucas they were friends.and not really unit now it pretty much Sami call all the shots and whoever she in relationship with.and right now lucas hidden stuff happened to will and affect him do lucas can be part of unit if does not know what happen.I do not really listen to anything will saying now ever since he was too busy pimping rafe and ej and praise them every time while compare lucas to Stefano in very bad form.at least guy Wilson of will does not seem like he only tolerate lucas because his family and cable to be happy for lucas.when will stop praise ej I might listen to what he saying but as long will praising ej he sound like idiot
You and I will just have to disagree on Will. I think Will was a confused and traumatized kid who was challenging boundaries. He clearly loves his father. He even said during his coming out that he was surprised Lucas was acting this way since he was the dependable parent. Will liking Rafe does not mean he does not love his father. Rafe was a great step-dad and a stabilizing force for their family. He took from Will the responsibility of worrying about his mom and allowed him to be a kid. Also, Will not wanting his parents back together is realistic since they're better of being friends. And let's not act like Lucas didn't hurt Sami. He allowed his mom to frame her for a crime she didn't commit. She was sentenced to death, for heaven's sake, and would've died if Marlena didn't beg Stefano.
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I love your banner. Although, like Will, I think Lucas and Sami are really good friends and they should stay that way. I like them friends. I don't want them hurting each other. I want them teaming up for their children's benefit and acting as a united front when it comes to their kids. I buy that they care about each other. They should just stay that way.
Lucas and sami staying friends does not mean they will not hurt each other.the first time Sami hurt lucas they were friends.and not really unit now it pretty much Sami call all the shots and whoever she in relationship with.and right now lucas hidden stuff happened to will and affect him do lucas can be part of unit if does not know what happen.I do not really listen to anything will saying now ever since he was too busy pimping rafe and ej and praise them every time while compare lucas to Stefano in very bad form.at least guy Wilson of will does not seem like he only tolerate lucas because his family and cable to be happy for lucas.when will stop praise ej I might listen to what he saying but as long will praising ej he sound like idiot
You and I will just have to disagree on Will. I think Will was a confused and traumatized kid who was challenging boundaries. He clearly loves his father. He even said during his coming out that he was surprised Lucas was acting this way since he was the dependable parent. Will liking Rafe does not mean he does not love his father. Rafe was a great step-dad and a stabilizing force for their family. He took from Will the responsibility of worrying about his mom and allowed him to be a kid. Also, Will not wanting his parents back together is realistic since they're better of being friends. And let's not act like Lucas didn't hurt Sami. He allowed his mom to frame her for a crime she didn't commit. She was sentenced to death, for heaven's sake, and would've died if Marlena didn't beg Stefano.
You can't bring up Lucas' crimes against Sami without bringing up Sami's crimes against Lucas, or EJ's crimes against Sami, and Sami's crimes against EJ. It starts a never ending square dance regardless of the point that's trying to be made.
Edited by cryin4days, Feb 10 2014, 09:49 AM.
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Just a question because I haven't watched consistently over the last few years. Did Sami only commit crimes against EJ because she was retaliating for something he did to her? For example, was the reason she shot EJ because of the kidnapping? Who was the first to hurt the other? What started this between them? Him raping her? Just curious.
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Lucas and sami staying friends does not mean they will not hurt each other.the first time Sami hurt lucas they were friends.and not really unit now it pretty much Sami call all the shots and whoever she in relationship with.and right now lucas hidden stuff happened to will and affect him do lucas can be part of unit if does not know what happen.I do not really listen to anything will saying now ever since he was too busy pimping rafe and ej and praise them every time while compare lucas to Stefano in very bad form.at least guy Wilson of will does not seem like he only tolerate lucas because his family and cable to be happy for lucas.when will stop praise ej I might listen to what he saying but as long will praising ej he sound like idiot
You and I will just have to disagree on Will. I think Will was a confused and traumatized kid who was challenging boundaries. He clearly loves his father. He even said during his coming out that he was surprised Lucas was acting this way since he was the dependable parent. Will liking Rafe does not mean he does not love his father. Rafe was a great step-dad and a stabilizing force for their family. He took from Will the responsibility of worrying about his mom and allowed him to be a kid. Also, Will not wanting his parents back together is realistic since they're better of being friends. And let's not act like Lucas didn't hurt Sami. He allowed his mom to frame her for a crime she didn't commit. She was sentenced to death, for heaven's sake, and would've died if Marlena didn't beg Stefano.
You can't bring up Lucas' crimes against Sami without bringing up Sami's crimes against Lucas, or EJ's crimes against Sami, and Sami's crimes against EJ. It starts a never ending square dance regardless of the point that's trying to be made.
I know. I was just saying because people act like Lucas was always good to Sami.
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I love your banner. Although, like Will, I think Lucas and Sami are really good friends and they should stay that way. I like them friends. I don't want them hurting each other. I want them teaming up for their children's benefit and acting as a united front when it comes to their kids. I buy that they care about each other. They should just stay that way.
Lucas and sami staying friends does not mean they will not hurt each other.the first time Sami hurt lucas they were friends.and not really unit now it pretty much Sami call all the shots and whoever she in relationship with.and right now lucas hidden stuff happened to will and affect him do lucas can be part of unit if does not know what happen.I do not really listen to anything will saying now ever since he was too busy pimping rafe and ej and praise them every time while compare lucas to Stefano in very bad form.at least guy Wilson of will does not seem like he only tolerate lucas because his family and cable to be happy for lucas.when will stop praise ej I might listen to what he saying but as long will praising ej he sound like idiot
You and I will just have to disagree on
Will. I think Will was a confused and traumatized kid who was challenging boundaries. He clearly loves his father. He even said during his coming out that he was surprised Lucas was acting this way since he was the dependable parent. Will liking Rafe does not mean he does not love his father. Rafe was a great step-dad and a stabilizing force for their family. He took from Will the responsibility of worrying about his mom and allowed him to be a kid. Also, Will not wanting his parents back together is realistic since they're better of being friends. And let's not act like Lucas didn't hurt Sami. He allowed his mom to frame her for a crime she didn't commit. She was sentenced to death, for heaven's sake, and would've died if Marlena didn't beg Stefano.
I never said lucas never hurt Sami I just said lucas and sami staying friends does not mean they will not hurt each other since Sami cable to hurt lucas in past when they were friends.and Sami was not saved because of Stefano but because of Kate paid guy to tell he did the crime to keel lucas mouth setup up.I seen lucas and will relationship from the started I always believe will love lucas and when Chandler Massey came to role as will I had up and high with will but since summer of 2012 they actually sold to me lucas does
not love lucas but only tolerate lucas because his family I never saw something that prove me other wise I probably too harsh I compare lucas and will relationship in the past .but I do think guy Wilson will love lucas.my problem with rafe they writers tried to sell rafe the step dad from heaven they act like lucas does not exist in order to do that it the same reason I can not stand Daniel and JJ. I did not see on the time will cover for Sami shooting ej let will being kid.I do not have problem will like rafe I do have problem when it over the top like in 2010 when Bryan dattilo was fired few week later they wrote will fail school because Sami broke up with rafe.at time Sami only dated rafe for few months they wrote lucas move to China and yet Will problem because his mom broke up with her boyfriend seriously and I can give more examples I do not have problem with will and rafe now since now is not the over the top.I do have problem with will and ej because what ej done to most of his family members and wil hate ej enough to shoot him so will look like an idiot any Time he said something good on ej.will is not idiot because he does not want his parents together he idiot to be happy to see his mom with ej
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Feb 10 2014, 10:04 AM
Just a question because I haven't watched consistently over the last few years. Did Sami only commit crimes against EJ because she was retaliating for something he did to her? For example, was the reason she shot EJ because of the kidnapping? Who was the first to hurt the other? What started this between them? Him raping her? Just curious.
I'd say EJ started round 1 and Sami started round 2.

Round 1 (2006 - 2007) - EJ started it by blackmailing Sami as the black glove and lying about being a DiMera. Sami retaliated by working with the police to set-up EJ. EJ then raped her. Sami then lied about the babies' paternity. EJ then tried to off Lucas and worked with Stefano to force Sami into marriage. End of 2007 was the end of round 1 because they became amicable when they were married, culminating in sex in May 2008.

Round 2 (late 2008 - 2011) - After about 10 months of getting along, Sami decided to hide her pregnancy from EJ because she was scared of raising another child around the violence of the DiMeras and because she was jealous of Ejole. That led to the babyswitch. Then EJ retaliated with the Sydnap. Sami retaliated with the shooting. And EJ retaliated with R2. Mid-2011 was the end of round 2 when EJ gave up custody of the kids.

This is obviously leaving out a lot of details, but covers most of the major crimes against each other.
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Feb 10 2014, 10:04 AM
Just a question because I haven't watched consistently over the last few years. Did Sami only commit crimes against EJ because she was retaliating for something he did to her? For example, was the reason she shot EJ because of the kidnapping? Who was the first to hurt the other? What started this between them? Him raping her? Just curious.
EJ targeted Sami from the beginning because he wanted to use her as a human incubator, through any means necessary. While he was lying to her and scaring her with secret blackmail notes he was also terrorizing, torturing, and attempting murder of members of her family.

He continued tormenting her after raping her, to the point that she could have miscarried the twins. He threatened her son's life more than once. The things Sami did to EJ were in direct retaliation for the unprovoked attacks against her, and her family.
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Feb 10 2014, 10:09 AM
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You and I will just have to disagree on Will. I think Will was a confused and traumatized kid who was challenging boundaries. He clearly loves his father. He even said during his coming out that he was surprised Lucas was acting this way since he was the dependable parent. Will liking Rafe does not mean he does not love his father. Rafe was a great step-dad and a stabilizing force for their family. He took from Will the responsibility of worrying about his mom and allowed him to be a kid. Also, Will not wanting his parents back together is realistic since they're better of being friends. And let's not act like Lucas didn't hurt Sami. He allowed his mom to frame her for a crime she didn't commit. She was sentenced to death, for heaven's sake, and would've died if Marlena didn't beg Stefano.
You can't bring up Lucas' crimes against Sami without bringing up Sami's crimes against Lucas, or EJ's crimes against Sami, and Sami's crimes against EJ. It starts a never ending square dance regardless of the point that's trying to be made.
I know. I was just saying because people act like Lucas was always good to Sami.
I haven't seen anyone here say that. I've seen it mentioned several times that the reason lumi became believable couple was that they started out as honest friends who had each other's back. When that friendship ended they were horrible to each other. They both went for the throat. It took 10 years of rage, pain, fighting, and working through their dark history for them to reach the point where they could forgive, and from there fall in love. There was no whitewashing or forgetting. They raked each other over the coals.
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